http://worldsinmotion.biz/ en Copyright 2010 Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:00:51 -0500 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/ http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Multimedia group RealNetworks reported a 5 percent drop in revenues for its Games division during Q2 2010, and announced the promotion of chief revenue officer Matt Hulett as the new head of that unit. The company's revenues from its Games business during Q2 2010 (ending June 30th) was $28.1 million, 5 percent less compared to the $29.6 million the department generated in the same period last year. RealNetworks' total revenues for the quarter from all of its units came out to $88.9 million, down from $135.7 million in Q2 2009 (includes $40.5 million in revenue from Real's music business and Rhapsody joint venture, which wasn't factored into its results this time around due to a restructuring of Rhapsody). For the third quarter of 2010, the firm expects its overall revenue to be "slightly lower" sequentially and less than its Q3 2009 amount, attributing the decline primarily to "softness" in its Games business. It also predicts that its future revenue statements will be affected by foreign currency trends. With its quarterly results announcement, RealNetworks revealed the appointment of Matt Hulett as the new head of its Games business, as John Barbour steps down. Hulett was previously CRO of the department, and has held executive roles at Expedia and Shockwave.com "Given the urgent need to pivot our Games business to social and online games, we think it is critical to have a leader based here in Seattle," says RealNetworks CEO and president Bob Kimball. "Matt has the right combination of leadership skills, online business experience and support from the team to refocus our Games business on the growth markets, including social games." Hulett's promotion comes a month after the company laid off most of its internal PC casual game studio GameHouse (Super Collapse and Little Shop) as part of a wider series of layoffs and a restructuring plan designed to "reduce the spans and layers of management to create greater efficiency, teamwork, and customer focus". RealNetworks retained its casual/social game team in the Netherlands, and said that its Seattle-based GameHouse studio will continue to operate its game portal, create titles for Facebook, and pursue second-party development contracts. "We made strong progress transforming RealNetworks during the second quarter," adds Kimball. "Our restructuring efforts are ahead of plan. In the first six months of the year, we cut more than $30 million in annualized operating expenses from our ongoing businesses." "Now it is time to focus on growing the business by improving our sales and marketing of existing products and building a strong pipeline of innovative products for the long term."]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/realnetworks_games_unit_report.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/realnetworks_games_unit_report.php Social Network Games Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:00:51 -0500 Vietnam's Ministry of Information and Communications is placing restrictions on public internet access and banning ads for online games following complaints that games help lead to juvenile crime, according to the country's state-run news agency. Minister Le Doan Hop announced the decision on Tuesday. The Vietnam News agency said citizens are concerned about online games' "negative influences on the youth." The restrictions follow public outcry that blamed increasing reports of juvenile crime and school truancy on online games and their allegedly addictive allure. The government in effect said it would cut off internet access from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m. to shops that offer public PC use. Officials will also issue a temporary stop on licensing of online games. The restrictions are valid through the end of the year, by which time the ministry said it expects the government to approve draft online game regulations. In Vietnam, there are 22 licensed gaming companies and 93 games, according to the report. Long-term potential solutions to the alleged negative effects of youth online gaming include electronic IDs used to manage citizen's internet usage. Director of the ministry's Electronic Information and Broadcasting Department Luu Vu Hai said the IDs could also help regulate subscribers to mobile devices. The Ho Chi Minh City executive council is also pushing for limitations on games with violent, gambling and pornographic content. Vietnam's restrictions come less than a month after China's Ministry of Culture said it would ban online game companies from using sex to sell their products, and also ban the promotional use of violence and gambling in advertising.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/negative_influences_on_youth_l.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/negative_influences_on_youth_l.php Core MMOs Free-To-Play Online Games Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:00:20 -0500 Veteran game designer and erstwhile cosmonaut Richard "Lord British" Garriott has prevailed in his legal action against former employer NCsoft, scoring $28 million in a dispute over stock options and the circumstances of his departure from the company. A federal court yesterday ruled that NCsoft had deprived Garriott of profits on his stock options by mis-categorizing his exit. The Ultima creator, whose last project with NCsoft was the disappointing Tabula Rasa, left the company in November 2008, a month after his return from his space tourism expedition on board the International Space Station. In his suit, Garriott had claimed he was 'forced out' of NCsoft and that he had "objected to his dismissal," yet the company claimed he left voluntarily -- a decision that meant Garriott had to quickly sell his stock options in a disadvantageous market or lose them altogether, whereas had he been categorized as terminated, he would have had 10 years to divest. According to a report in Austin's Statesman, the trial lasted three-and-a-half days, and the jury spent three hours deliberating before making the decision to award Garriott the $28 million -- less than the $47 he had been seeking, but an amount equal to the profit he missed out on by having to sell quickly. Garriott, whose newest venture is a Facebook gaming start-up called Portalarium, said he was "very pleased with the final award". South Korea-headquarted NCsoft said via its attorney, however, that it "will be considering all options for next steps in the legal process." According to the report, Garriott first heard he would lose his job when he was spending time in quarantine in Russia following his space trip. Just after he returned, NCsoft announced it would soon close Tabula Rasa, an MMO launched under Garriott's stewardship a year prior that became a commercial failure, with only about a year on the market.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/garriott_victorious_in_28_mill.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/garriott_victorious_in_28_mill.php Core MMOs Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:00:48 -0500 Free-to-play online publisher Nexon America (Maplestory, Dungeon Fighter Online) revealed that its revenues grew 26 percent for the second quarter of 2010 ending last June. While Nexon America, which is the Stateside arm of South Korean developer and publisher Nexon Corp., hasn't yet provided exact revenue and profit numbers for Q2 2010, it noted that in June alone, its revenues were 36 percent higher compared to the same period last year. This announcement continues a trend of increasing revenues for the North American division -- last May, the firm enjoyed an increase in revenues to $45.5 million for 2009, a 31 percent growth over the $34.3 million it cashed the previous year Nexon America's free-to-play titles include MapleStory, which claims more than seven million registered users in the region; Combat Arms, which has over four milion registered users; and Mabinogi with one million users. It also recently launched Dungeon Fighter Online here, and will begin a closed beta for Vindictus next month. "Our player base and revenues continue to expand, which tells us that gamers find that our free-to-play business model fits their play needs," said Nexon America's CEO Daniel Kim, according to a report from Games Beat.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/nexon_america_revenues_grew_26.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/nexon_america_revenues_grew_26.php Free-To-Play Online Games Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:00:25 -0500 Academic, author and game designer Ian Bogost is a little bit worried that his latest game, Cow Clicker -- a simple Facebook title simply about clicking on cows -- might receive more attention than anything he's done to date. If that turns out to be the case, it'll be an interesting turn of irony, the sort that motivates the sometimes-controversial designer: this is because Cow Clicker is a satire that asks players and developers alike to examine the explosive popularity of Facebook games. Cow Clicker, Bogost tells Worlds in Motion sister site Gamasutra, was initially conceived as an alternative to a straight lecture presentation he was asked to give at an NYU event; with only ten minutes to speak, and (as usual for Bogost) "a lot to say", why not show instead of tell? Cow Clicker was intended to present the four issues that Bogost says "concern" him most about Facebook games: "enframing, compulsion, optionalism, and destroyed time," described in detail on his blog post about the title. Gameplay in Cow Clicker is insultingly simple -- Bogost has described it as "Facebook games distilled to their essence." Users obtain a cow on which they can click every six hours, and every time they click, they earn more opportunities to click their cow or their friends' cows. Users can buy custom "premium" cows or buy their way out of the six-hour delay with the game's currency, "Mooney" (Bogost claims that the coincidence with the last name of Zynga's vice president is nothing more than sheer accident). "It's particularly easy to be a negative critic, to talk down about something from on high," he says. "By making a game to deliver that message, I hoped it would be taken more seriously." So while Cow Clicker is, in a nutshell, a criticism of the social game industry, "that's not all it is," he adds. "It's also a social game! Which is counterintuitive, isn't it?"]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/interview_cow_clicker_yields_r.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/interview_cow_clicker_yields_r.php Social Network Games Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:00:30 -0500 Realtime Worlds, developer of APB and the original Crackdown, has announced Project: MyWorld, a PC platform that combines social media with a virtual representation of the real world. More of a social platform than a game, Project: MyWorld uses data from GIS (geographic information system) mapping services to create a 3D render of entire countries. Users can then alter the features of cities and towns using in-game tools to make buildings and other structures more accurately mimic the real world. Project: MyWorld uses a Wiki-like system to ensure that users do not alter the virtual world in ways that stray too far from reality. Realtime Worlds released a walkthrough video, demonstrating tools that allow users to alter the dimensions, colors, textures, and external features of buildings. The project integrates several forms of social media, including Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Google, and Loopt, though there are few details about how these services will work within the platform. Users can also play several types of casual games within the virtual locations, including fishing, driving, farming, and flying. “We see Project: MyWorld as the next generation of social game platforms…we see it has the intersection between virtual worlds, online gaming and social media,” explains Sean Dugan, design director of Project: MyWorld. Realtime Worlds hopes to open the Project: MyWorld platform to users early next year.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/realtime_worlds_announces_soci.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/realtime_worlds_announces_soci.php Social Network Games Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:00:39 -0500 Every other week, we'll examine the fastest growing Facebook games (according to monthly active users), looking at which titles and developers are having the most success attracting new players on the social network. Though Lyore Network's QuizBone doesn't seem to really qualify as a game, the quiz-making title was still the fastest growing app listed in Facebook's "Games" category, doubling its audience to 2.9 million after gaining 1.5 million new users in the last week. QuizBone managed to overtake Zynga's FrontierVille, which held that #1 spot almost every week since its launch in June. The pioneering sim grew by 6 percent and now has 21.9 million players, 1.1 million of which just started playing within the past seven days. At #3, Watercooler's Kingdoms of Camelot grew its userbase as it added 970,122 new players, now up to a total of 4 million. The kingdom-building simulator spent the past month below 3 million users but experienced a 32 percent surge for its audience recently. Playdom's offbeat game Fanglies (#4), which launched earlier this month, more than tripled its total to 1.1 million users after attracting 838,583 new players. Apparently, gamers have taken to the idea of a city-building sim starring cartoonish vampires! Playfish/Electronic Arts' Pirates Ahoy, another early July release, shot up to #5 and enjoyed a 1,425 percent growth this week, picking up 796,939 new swashbucklers and expanding its total crew to 852,846 players. The new title invites players to sail with their friends and search for treasures. ZipZapPlay's Baking Life hasn't budged from its #6 spot since our last tally, bringing in 787,344 (+23 percent) new users for a total of 4.3 milion. Metrogames' clothing store management game Fashion World climbed up to #7, with 779,802 new shoppers joining for a total of 3.1 million. Two more non-games, Windows Live Messenger and Entrevista tus Amigos, popped up on our list of Facebook's fastest growing games at #8 and #9 respectively. Popcap Games Bejeweled Blitz continues to grow on the social network, as 733,654 new gem-matchers (+7 percent) helped bring its total audience size up to 11.5 million. You can see the full list of the top 20 fastest growing Facebook games along with exact monthly active user counts after the break: All charts and data are courtesy of Facebook application metrics and trends site AppData]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/citybuilding_sims_pirates_ahoy.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/citybuilding_sims_pirates_ahoy.php Social Network Games Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:00:31 -0500 Farmville developer Zynga has teamed up with telecommunications/media corporation Softbank to create Zynga Japan, a joint venture focusing on social games and the local mobile market. Along with announcing the Tokyo-based joint venture, Softbank revealed that it's completed a previously reported $150 million investment in Zynga, boosting the San Francisco's total amount of venture backing raised since its founding three years ago up to almost $370 million. With the establishing of Zynga Japan, the developer is taking its first step into Japan's growing internet and mobile businesses. The joint venture looks to tap into Japan's history of gaming while leveraging Softbank's mobile and web technology to produce what the two firms hope will be "the best social games in the market". "We're excited to partner with Softbank to bring Zynga's social games to Japan and gain insights from the Japanese market," says Zynga founder and CEO Mark Pincus. "As one of the most innovative technology companies in the world, Softbank is bringing the mobile internet to consumers making the social web more accessible to people everywhere." ]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/zynga_softbank_establish_joint.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/zynga_softbank_establish_joint.php Social Network Games Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:00:10 -0500 The Lego Group announce that it's selected newly opened studio Dire Wolf Digital to produce a trading card game based on its upcoming Lego Universe massively multiplayer online game. This agreement with Dire Wolf allows the company to not only create a physical collectible card game, but also digital products for PC, Mac, and mobile devices. The studio doesn't plans to release the Lego Universe card game until 2011, while the NetDevil-developed MMO will launch on October 26, 2010. Based in Denver, the studio is headed by Sony Online Entertainment Denver's former head Scott Martins, and is staffed by veterans from SOE and Worlds Apart Productions (acquired by SOE in 2006). Martins and his team have previously specialized in creating online trading card games like Legends of Norrath and the Free Realms TCG. The developer says it has an "Anytime, Anyplace" approach for its technology, which is designed to enable consumers to "play from multiple types of clients (web/social, mobile, console), all connecting to a single back-end." Dire Wolf's deal with the Lego Group allows it to potentially implement this concept with its Lego Universe project. "Creating a game with the Lego Group and NetDevil is an exciting opportunity, allowing us to work with a beloved brand and great business partners," says Martins. "The creativity and ‘build anything’ spirit of the brand and Lego Universe fit perfectly with trading card games, where players are limited only by their imaginations."]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/dire_wolf_creating_lego_univer.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/dire_wolf_creating_lego_univer.php Social Network Games Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:00:00 -0500 Social game developer Playdom is the latest studio to sign a five-year contract with Facebook to exclusively use the social network's universal virtual currency Credits across all its titles. The news follows just a few days after Disney announced its agreement to acquire Playdom for up to $763 million, a purchase that puts Facebook in the position to claim that Credits, which is currently in beta, has the support of a major media conglomerate, possibly compelling other companies to follow suit. Inside Social Games, which reported the new contract, notes that developers such as Wooga (Monster World), LOLapps (Band of Heroes), RockYou (Zoo World), and CrowdStar (Happy Aquarium) have also announced agreements to exclusively use Credits, with the latter two signing similar five-year deals with Facebook. With Credits, players can purchase digital goods in any social games that support Facebook's in-house virtual currency. The benefit of this system to users is that it's designed to be more portable than virtual currencies that they can only spend in a specific game or a catalog of titles from a single publisher. Playdom, which will soon join the Disney Interactive Media Group if the acquisition is completed, offers dozens of titles on Facebook and MySpace. On Facebook alone, its games (e.g. Social City, Tiki Resort) bring in a total of more than 38 million monthly active users, according to figures from AppData.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/playdom_signs_fiveyear_deal_to.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/playdom_signs_fiveyear_deal_to.php Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:00:19 -0500 Games network IGN Entertainment has launched its beta for MyIGN, a gamer-focused social network adding game-like elements and new community features to its flagship consumer news site. The social network, which acts as a layer over the company's site, looks to keep IGN.com's 12.7 million monthly visitors (the entire network attracts over 18 million visitors each month) entertained by offering features that allow them to track items posted on the site and compete with their friends. MyIGN enables the site's users to follow specific releases, game developers, IGN.com editors, and other users to create and customize a personal newsfeed that provides news, reviews, videso, blog posts, and more. They can also post status updates, similar to other social media sites like Facebook and Twitter. As users take advantage of these features and participate in the MyIGN community, they'll earn points and level up. The system adds a competitive element, as users' levels are displayed throughout the site, and IGN hopes this will motivate them to become more active and beat their friends' ranking. Though IGN's parent company, News Corp., also owns MySpace, the technology for this social network was developed within IGN, according to a report from VentureBeat. Producing MyIGN in-house allowed the site to tailor its features to what it believes gamers want. "We created it because gamers are not currently served by social networks," said IGN's SVP and publisher Peer Schneider. "If I post what I really feel about a game on Facebook, I’ll get odd comments from non-gaming friends and family. In our setting, you can feel comfortable talking about gaming. No one else has nailed it." IGN plans to eventually introduce new features to the social network, such as the ability to join friends in games, try out instantaneous demos, and purchase digitally distributed releases. Users can currently sign up for the social features by using their existing IGN account, creating a new IGN account, or logging in with their Facebook details.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/ign_launches_social_network_fo.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/ign_launches_social_network_fo.php Social Network Games Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:00:46 -0500 Google is talking to "several" developers in the social gaming space about the creation of a social network that would rival the 500 million-strong Facebook, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday. The report cited multiple anonymous sources close to the dealings who said Google is talking to companies including Playfish parent Electronic Arts, FarmVille house Zynga and Disney's recent acquisition, Playdom. If Google launches the reported games-friendly social network, it would find itself in direct competition with Facebook, which is home to the leading social network games. A successful Google social network could also give game developers another viable platform to reach the millions of "social" gamers who spend real-world cash on virtual items. Google did not immediately respond to Gamasutra's inquiry about the service. The Wall Street Journal said that Google CEO Eric Schmidt this week would not confirm development of a social game-friendly networking service, rumored to be called "Google Me." The search engine giant is keenly interested in expanding its reach into the gaming space. In April this year, Google hired longtime game industry veteran Mark DeLoura as developer advocate for games at the company. "In this time of great disruption in the game industry, there are a huge number of opportunities for developers," he said at the time. "It can be difficult for traditional games companies to navigate the new possibilities provided by mobile platforms, social networks, and alternative business models." Google reportedly invested around $100 million into Zynga this year as it prepares for a wide-reaching gaming initiative. Schmidt did not confirm the unannounced deal, but said, "you can expect a partnership with Zynga [in the future]." The most recent major social gaming transaction was Disney's acquisition of Sorority Life developer Playdom for $563.2 million and up to an additional $200 million in earn-outs.]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/google_talking_to_game_devs_about_creating_facebook_competitor.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/google_talking_to_game_devs_about_creating_facebook_competitor.php Social Network Games Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:00:43 -0500 Zynga's decision to shutter its Street Racing social game has incited frustrated players to accuse the developer of delivering the cancellation news insensitively and providing inadequate compensation. The San Francisco-headquartered company announced the game's termination in its forums and app page with a brief note that reads, "On August 2, 2010, Street Racing will be shutting down its garage doors and will no longer be open for business. But if you liked Street Racing, try out FrontierVille by Zynga ... See ya there partner!" Social games analyst Nicholas Lovell, who described the announcement as "asking for trouble", told trade site Develop, "Telling people to try FrontierVille from Street Racing is telling people to play a game that is completely different in terms of concept and design. A hugely apologetic email would have made more sense." Zynga posted a similar note when announcing its cancellation of Roller Coaster Kingdom last month, inviting players to try out Vampire Wars. And while some Street Racing fans are upset over the studio's apparent indifference, even more are complaining about losing the virtual cars and modifications they've purchased in the game with real cash. Lovell commented on the issue : “[What] they could have done is offer people credits, where every pound/[dollar] you spend in Street Racing will be used in other games. But I imagine they didn’t want to set that precedent. Zynga didn't provide any reasons for why it's removing Street Racing from its servers, but the title has received very few updates in recent months and has a shrinking audience of around 444,000 monthly active users -- an impressive amount for smaller developers perhaps, but a fraction of what the company's top releases typically pull. Despite Zynga's top releases attracting tens of millions of monthly active players, this isn't the first time the firm has shut down one of its social games. It's previously discontinued titles like Ponzi Inc. (after acquiring its developer Challenge Games), Dope Wars, and most recently Roller Coaster Kingdom. Update: Zynga has since addressed these issues by offering to compensate any Street Racing players who have purchased in-game goods within the last 90 days with virtual currency they can spend in some of Zynga's most popular titles. "As an acknowledgment of the inconvenience these changes may have caused, we have offered credits to all players who have made a purchase in the last 90 days," said a representative for the developer. "Those players will receive a credit for the exact amount of their purchases, plus an additional 100 units of premium currency, in any of Zynga’s nine most popular games." "We thank the Street Racing community for their support and hope they enjoy a new Zynga game of their choosing."]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/zynga_announces_street_racing.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/zynga_announces_street_racing.php Social Network Games Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:00:48 -0500 Disney's recent buy of Playdom may not have been a wise move, says one analyst, perplexed by the high value of the acquisition in a climate of viral slowdown for Facebook games. The Mouse paid $563 million, plus the possibility of an additional $200 million if the Social City and Sorority Life developer achieves certain performance targets. That's a possible value of $763 million all told -- a deal that Cowen and Company's Doug Creutz says "looks very expensive." He says it's unclear whether Disney can possibly expect that kind of return on its investment -- according to the analyst, this is the fourth large-scale acquisition since CEO Bob Iger became CEO in 2005. Among these acquisitions was the equally-massive buy of online kids' social world Club Penguin, for which Disney paid about $700 million during a period when virtual worlds were nearly as popular with investors as social gaming is now. $350 million of that price was target-based incentives that the company ultimately missed. Not only are such big buys "potentially raising questions about how to evaluate the returns on Disney's strategic deployment of shareholder capital," according to the analyst, the Playdom acquisition seems illogical to Creutz when compared with the relatively recent $400 million Playfish purchase by EA ($300 million up-front, $100 million with performance contingencies). According to the analyst, Playdom's user base is about 30 percent smaller than the 60 million monthly active users across all platforms that Playfish had at the time it was purchased by EA; on Facebook only, Creutz cites AppData figures to suggest Playdom's monthly actives are about 15 percent smaller -- which makes it questionable why Disney's potential purchase price for Playdom is almost twice as high as Playfish's just eight months ago. ]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/amid_slowing_facebook_growth_d.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/amid_slowing_facebook_growth_d.php Social Network Games Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:00:13 -0500 Internet/mobile services firm and online game developer Tencent has signed a multi-SKU licensing agreement with Emergent Game Technologies for the use of the company's Gamebryo and Gamebryo Lightspeed engines. Emergent's engines allow developers to create single-player, online, and multiplayer titles in a variety of genres, providing a cross-platform toolset for PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, and PC projects. They're designed for "rapid prototyping, rapid iteration, and rapid development", and allow studios to integrate both in-house and third-party tech. Headquartered in Shenzhen, China, Tencent develops, publishers, and operates a number of MMOs and casual titles, including Dungeon & Fighter (Dungeon Fighter Online), Cross Fire, and more than 60 other games. It also runs QQ.com, one of China's largest web portals. Tencent maintains a development studio in Boston, which is currently working on an unannounced "fantasy-based MMO". The company hasn't revealed if that project will use Emergent's engines, but it has said that Gamebryo and Lightspeed will serve as "core client side technologies" for the development of its gaming products. "Tencent is a true global success story, continually innovating with each level of its business and we look forward to a long, integrated partnership to help them realize the next level of videogame entertainment," says Emergent CEO Scott M. Johnson. "Emergent’s products allow Tencent’s teams to focus more on game specific development and content creation, rather than core client technology development."]]> http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/tencent_emergent_sign_multisku.php http://worldsinmotion.biz/2010/07/tencent_emergent_sign_multisku.php Core MMOs Free-To-Play Online Games Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:00:12 -0500